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11/28/2009

New Tally - 115

Was able to score a very old school LUM stamped dagger off Ebay. I really like his older pieces.

11/21/2009

New Tally - 114

The Extra Small Ti Chinese Folder, and the Extra Small Ti Folding Stalker are both gone.

11/20/2009

New Tally -116

The following folders are gone:

Chinese Slip-Joint w/Jigged bone
Deluxe Chinese with Damascus blade and Oosic scales
Black Micarta All-Rounder
Black Micarta Folding Stalker with Thumb Ramp

11/16/2009

Copy Update

Update: After speaking to the customer and the maker, both have agreed to acknowledge Bob as the influence, and will not make any further examples of the folders. I applaud their taking responsibility, even though it was strictly unintentional.

I encourage any maker to continue with the Chinese Folder design, as long as the design is significantly unique. The Chinese Folder has a strong following among knife collectors, and has proven to be a popular design because of it's versatility as a folding knife.

Design Influence

Recently, on one of the popular knife forums, there was an instance of someone asking another knifemaker to make his rendition of Bob's Chinese Folder. When the pictures were posted, the end results were too similar to Bob's design that a debate arouse about what is original, and what would constitute a copy. The age old argument that Bob did not invent the design surfaced again. As was the case when Bob introduced the tanto design, he never claimed to have invented the Chinese Folder design, so that accusation is invalid. What he did was based his design on the original, and came up with his own version.

The original design, called the Shi Lin in Chinese, is an ancient design. It was a slip joint with narrow neck and rounded handles. What Bob did was to update the design to modern lines, and added his own design elements. These included a liner lock, a different pivot geometry, and a new curved handle treatment. An additional design element was the use of the licensed Spyderco Hole to help with one hand opening.

The success of the production Spyderco Chinese Folder is what brought the design to the mainstream knife public. Since then, several makers have offered their own interpretation of a Chinese Folder. I've attached two below; the Whaleshark as designed by Johnny Liao and made by Warren Thomas, and the Chinese Friction Folder by my friend Belgian knifemaker Filip Deeuw.



There was a slight rumbling when Warren Thomas's version was made public. Even more when Microtech decided to issue a production version. But Bob's reaction was that, while the Whaleshark was piggy backing off the success of his Chinese Folder, the design was unique enough that it wasn't a "copy" as suggested. The same argument can be said for Filip's version. As well as a fixed blade version that is currently in the works by Tom Krein.

However, the version in question in the first paragraph, had too many similarities, and not enough unique features. The lines of the folder were near identical, down to the blade's grind lines. The argument offered for making these folders were:

1) Bob is no longer available to make Chinese Folders.

2) The maker came to the final design by extrapolating from the Spyderco version, and is unique because it did not include the Spyderco hole and is bolstered.

3) The maker only did this as a request from a customer.

All three arguments are valid. Bob has passed away, and can no longer make his folders. The maker did design the knife himself and the end result was very different from the Spyderco version. But all three arguments did not address the major issue of design copying. Singularly: that this version of the Chinese Folder design is still under the ownership of Bob's estate, with the present owner being Bob's widow, Jean Lum. Also, the Spyderco Chinese Folder was issued a design patent by the US Patent Office (Patent #434,631) to guard against being copied by competitors.

Which brings me to where I see are the main issues to avoid, so this won't happen again.

A) A maker's design protection does not expire when he passes away. Especially if there is valid copyright protection available. It does not become "public domain".

B) Knifemakers should be responsible when charged with making another maker's design. They should at the very least, discuss the order with the original maker. And at the very minimum, do a little research prior to coming up with a final design. In this day and age of internet sharing, it would not be too difficult to see what other versions of Bob's Chinese Folders exist. To think that Bob only did the Spyderco version is a very limited assumption.

C) When the final design is too similar, it really should be re-done so that a new and unique design is the end result. This will bolster the argument that the design was not a copy, if/when the accusations are made.

D) Even if the design is unique, if Bob's Chinese Folder was the inspiration, then an effort to acknowledge that would be a sign of respect for Bob's work.

The Custom Knifemaking world is fairly small, and many of the collectors can be very protective of their favorite maker's designs. Because, ultimately, it does infringe on a maker's livelihood. Proper attribution and research can easily avoid the drama and accusation of "copying". There is enough copying going on by overseas companies, that it's hard enough to be successful for makers to infringe on each other.

Comments are welcome.

11/09/2009

For Lum Collectors

I'm offering two new items with this post.

1) A new blog to help collectors of Bob Lum's work to buy, sell, and trade his knives. It's still a work in progress, but I hope it'll help succeed in it's mission.

2) A new item to show support of this blog: a collector's embroidered patch. The design is a variation of my LumNut avatar, and reflects the purpose of this blog.

Both are available here: http://lumknivesmarket.blogspot.com

11/03/2009

New Tally - 120

Four folders are gone.

Large Folding Stalker with Black Micarta
Large Ti Folding Tanto
Medium Ti Chinese Folder
Ti Folding Skinner

11/02/2009

New Benchmade Folding Tanto

Benchmade released a version of the Lum Folding Tanto II for 2009. The model is 760BK LFTi. This is a Benchmade branded variation of the Blackwater Folding Tanto.





When I obtain one of the Blackwater versions, I'll post a comparison.

New Spyderco Chinese

Spyderco released a new version of the Lum Chinese Folder in June of 2009. Here are the latest versions in Foliage Green. They came in two configurations with VG-10 blade steel; Plain blade, model C65FGP; Black blade, C65FGPBK. Total run is 600 units each.